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 on: April 02, 2017, 08:34:04 am 
Started by Cliff - Last post by DharmAnanda
Hi everyone. My name is Matthew. I've had my ocarina for a little while now, but haven't played it much. I'm hoping that the 5mmc will help me fix that.

 on: March 27, 2017, 11:52:22 pm 
Started by ubizmo - Last post by Tuna
Oh man I'm so excited.

 on: March 27, 2017, 01:01:14 am 
Started by ubizmo - Last post by Harp Player
I am glad that the design has been finalized and the order placed.  Thanks for the news.

 on: March 25, 2017, 01:20:33 pm 
Started by ubizmo - Last post by Ric
News Flash!

This just in, as of 9:30am March 24, 2017!


Hi Ric,

I just added you to the list!  

By the way, yesterday, after seemingly endless revisions, everyone has approved the Coda design for production. Thus, my wife Susan and I were pleased to finally hand over a fat check to the mold building team, so the process has begun. They estimate that it will take 10-12 weeks before we have our first parts.

I'll be in touch!


 on: March 23, 2017, 01:49:58 pm 
Started by ubizmo - Last post by Ric
Am I the only one that thinks CODA looks like a stun gun?

Well, either way, it's certainly a stunning achievement!

Looking forward to rewarding Karl for all his hard work with a few greenbacks.


P.S. - quite disappointed I'll never be able to have one of these in Dymondwood....oh well.

 on: March 22, 2017, 10:42:33 am 
Started by ubizmo - Last post by Tuna
Karl, do you anticipate a limit on the initial order quantity? For that price (too low, IMO) I may as well get several as gifts for my musically-inclined friends and family. But I don't want to hog all the fun toys if there is a limited availability at the outset.

 on: March 19, 2017, 03:03:16 am 
Started by ubizmo - Last post by Harp Player
ubizmo, I certainly see your point on the price of other doubles out there.  Most beginners wouldn't know the difference between the CODA and the novelty plastic double ocarinas out there, but are those people the target demographic?  I don't think that they are, instead I see the CODA buyer as being someone that is proficient on the Ocarina and are looking for a High Quality extended range instrument. That is why I suggested that CODA is under market value at the $50 price point.

I am looking at if from the perspective of a harmonica player.  You can buy a playable instrument to learn on for under $10, or you can spend well over $100 on some of the real high end Harmonicas.  I am not wealthy, nor do I make money from my playing, but I still need a good quality instrument (and several of them). My harmonicas are $50 each range which don't sound like a big deal until you consider that I carry 21 harmonicas when I play.

Either way I hope that the CODA gets the attention and respect that it deserves from the Ocarina Community, and that Karl has to work 60 hour weeks to meet the demand for his new product.  Well OK, we will let you knock off a little early on Saturday you can go fishing and hunting.

Edited for clarity

 on: March 18, 2017, 04:25:31 pm 
Started by ubizmo - Last post by d102
Thank you Karl, for the informative and interesting update, hope the ultrasonic welding guy gives the design a big yes and it can all move forward another step.

My comment on pricing is that a lot of the money on some high-end musical instruments, mobile phones etc is paid for the looks rather than the function so maybe there should be a high-end Coda (e.g. gold-plated, encrusted with gems and personally signed by Karl or perhaps hand decorated with exotic wood veneers)  I would not want one, but then I do not have a high-end mobile phone either.  Just a thought.

 on: March 17, 2017, 02:49:23 pm 
Started by ubizmo - Last post by ubizmo
I don't have any experience in setting price points for products, but certain factors are obvious. One of them is: What is the price of the nearest competitor's product? In the case of Coda, this is a tricky question. If you think strictly in terms of ocarinas, the nearest competitor is a plastic double ocarina. I have one of these and in my judgment it's not even close to an actual competitor to Coda, but that doesn't alter the fact that it's likely to be perceived that way. Plastic doubles can be bought in the US for under $50 now, so despite the vast differences between these and Coda, that fact has to be taken into consideration.

Looking at the wider market for low-cost, durable instruments of comparable range, the other main competitor is the plastic soprano recorder. While these are not as easily portable as Coda, nor as easily playable, especially at the higher end of the range, they are nevertheless out there and some pretty good ones can be bought for under $50.

As tempting as it may be to see Coda as in a class by itself, it's important to see it through the eyes of prospective buyers who haven't seen it, played it, or even heard from anyone who has seen and played it. It's therefore important not to place too much of a price barrier in front of these people. Having played a prototype, as well as having a lot of experience playing various low-cost recorders, I can personally testify that Coda is a very different, and much more satisfying, instrument. But new buyers will be skeptical of such claims, and rightfully so. The price needs to be low enough to tempt them to take a chance on a new concept. So even though I think Coda is worth more than $50, I think it makes sense to keep it at around that point, if it's feasible to do so.

 on: March 17, 2017, 12:55:32 am 
Started by ubizmo - Last post by K-Ninja
I like things that are cheaper to buy, yet good quality. But while I hold that conviction deep in my heart, I have to agree with HarpPlayer somewhat. Maybe bumping the price up a little bit will be beneficial. And considering the time, money, and other forms of investments you have put into making the CODA, you really deserve the right to bump up the price. But I myself would recommend not having the price to be over $60.00, but just an idea. You lead your horse wherever you want to go, my friend.(A little saying I made up). You know what is best for the Mountain Ocarinas Co. and I support you!

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